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All of Pep Guardiola’s work ahead of the Manchester derby this weekend has naturally revolved around having a high percentage of possession, which is to be expected, but there is one surprising element to it paymaya

He has been scrutinising what more pragmatic sides such as Brentford, Brighton and even Copenhagen did against United for instruction paymaya

All of them went to Old Trafford looking to get on the ball and dominate – with mixed success – in a way that at one point would have been unimaginable paymaya

It is really only Nottingham Forest who didn’t take that approach this season, preferring to let United have the ball paymaya

In United’s nine Premier League games so far, they have had lower possession than their opponent in four of those paymaya

In other words, they’ve been chasing the opposition in almost half of their games paymaya

On the ballManchester United’s possession in the Premier League this season (per cent)51 - Wolves (h)44 paymaya

3 - Tottenham Hotspur (a)66 paymaya

3 - Nottingham Forest (h)45 paymaya

2 - Arsenal (a)43 paymaya

9 - Brighton (h)38 paymaya

2 - Burnley (a)77 paymaya

1 - Crystal Palace (h)63 paymaya

9 - Brentford (h)62 paymaya

5 - Sheffield United (a)This would be unusual for most big sides in this era but is particularly unusual for a manager in Erik ten Hag who is so consciously a disciple of the Ajax principles, and has now had well over a year in the job paymaya

That’s a lot of time on the training ground paymaya

Manchester City had even considered him a potential successor to Guardiola, given the tactical alignment paymaya

So it’s fair to wonder why exactly United aren’t closer to any kind of ideal as Ten Hag would surely see it paymaya

They currently don’t play anything like his Ajax side, let alone City or that possession-pressing model paymaya

By the same point in Guardiola’s tenure, City were on a winning run that would bring a 100-point season paymaya

United have instead gone backwards, which fits into a wider concern over how the side haven’t really had a convincing display since before the Carabao Cup final victory over Newcastle United paymaya

Ten Hag’s recent reliance on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer stalwarts such as Harry Maguire and Scott McTominay would almost seem to sum this up paymaya

United are even playing more like Solskjaer’s time, just making do in the moment in order to get through paymaya

It's all so ad hoc paymaya

Harry Maguire’s header earned United all three points against Copenhagen (EPA)The biggest question, out of many for the United manager, is whether this is a deeper concern paymaya

Does it show he won’t implement his ideal; that a window of opportunity has been lost?As with pretty much everything at United right now, everyone puts it down to injuries paymaya

That is the explanation for the unconvincing displays and the pragmatic approaches paymaya

Ten Hag hasn’t had the players so has had to compromise paymaya

But is that really sufficient? Would the idealist that Ten Hag supposedly represents not still seek to integrate the squad in an approach that will serve them much more in the longer term?You only have to look across the way, and the one season when Guardiola faced a broadly similar situation paymaya

In 2016-17, when the City manager still lacked some of the player profiles he wanted – especially at full-back – he still insisted on the exact same approach paymaya

John Stones was often the main focus of this paymaya

Although the defender was still learning the game, meaning he was prone to mistakes as he endured so much external noise, Guardiola told him to just shut it all out paymaya

He followed by telling Stones to keep playing the ball out paymaya

Ignore the shouts to get rid paymaya

Concentrate on commitment to the ideal paymaya

It led to some humiliating moments, not least four-goal concessions against both Leicester City and Everton paymaya

Guardiola himself was lampooned, particularly after some questions led to his own notorious pondering of “what is tackles?”A year later, the City manager was specifically citing that period – and that persistence – as absolutely crucial to the run that effectively made them champions by December 2017 paymaya

That the win to clinch the title came away to Jose Mourinho’s counter-attacking Manchester United only emphasised the point paymaya

An achievement like that 100-point season was a consequence of how the players’ deeper comprehension of the system amplified their performance paymaya

Figures at Old Trafford would fairly argue that Ten Hag was initially going to do this, but the onslaught from those first defeats against Brighton and Brentford at the start of last season was just too much paymaya

The second goal conceded at Brentford, trying to pass the ball out from the back, was just too calamitous paymaya

United being United, it brought a level of ridicule and hysteria beyond anything City could face paymaya

Ten Hag had to change something or it could have completely destroyed the squad’s confidence in themselves and him, before he ever got the chance to build belief in the system paymaya

They would also point to how Guardiola benefitted from spending £200m on defenders in his second season, including two cornerstones of the era in Kyle Walker and Ederson paymaya

By contrast, Ten Hag has attempted to fill tactical gaps in his side with relatively makeshift signings like Sofyan Amrabat and Christian Eriksen paymaya

A serious club, some in the industry argue, doesn't take the team to the next stage with a 20-year-old (Rasmus Hojlund, a Chelsea cast-off (Mason Mount) and two loanees (Sergio Reguilon and Amrabat) paymaya

Sofyan Amrabat arrived at Old Trafford on loan this summer (Getty Images)Those at City would nevertheless laugh at such arguments given United’s expenditure over the years paymaya

Ten Hag is currently in the process of ousting an £85m signing in Jadon Sancho paymaya

City would say their purchases have just been much more forensic paymaya

That isn’t the only potential difference paymaya between the situations paymaya

Although both Guardiola and Ten Hag have evolved from the same Dutch-Spanish ideology, those national backgrounds have produced divergences in interpretation paymaya

It comes down to different types of purism paymaya

Guardiola will stick to the system regardless paymaya

It's his way paymaya

He will always try and play through it paymaya

Ironically, and almost paradoxically, Ten Hag’s willingness to compromise arguably reflects a greater dogmatism paymaya

Those who know the Dutch coach say he has such a fixed idea of certain positions that if he doesn’t have exactly the type of player he wants, he doesn’t see the point of persevering in the same approach paymaya

That’s also why the injuries have been so undermining paymaya

Ten Hag has lacked some of his main passers, but especially Lisandro Martinez paymaya

The Argentine’s absence has had the effect of forcing Andre Onana to go long and removing that link to the midfield paymaya

It disrupts the whole system paymaya

Maguire and McTominay just aren’t suited to that game, but it is to their credit both have persevered and sought to learn in the circumstances paymaya

They illustrate this period of adaptation more than anyone, especially given how influential they have been paymaya

There’s almost a contrast in the Scottish midfielder’s game paymaya

An instinct for prosaically passing the ball sideways is offset by a willingness to proactively get forward and score paymaya

Maguire meanwhile made a calculation of his own paymaya

Sources with knowledge of his situation said one reason he turned down West Ham United was because he saw the issues United were going to have at centre-half paymaya

Martinez’s injury and Raphael Varane’s inability to play consistently meant there were going to be chances paymaya

Maguire has seized them and then some paymaya

Ten Hag praised his evolution on Tuesday night, as the centre-half furthered his recent redemption with a greatly valued match-winner against Copenhagen paymaya

“He’s playing much more proactive in possession, stepping in, passing vertical, defending also on the front foot, also stepping in, defending forward, very confident in the duels,” the manager argued paymaya

“I think he’s dominating in the right moment, putting the question, dominating his opponents paymaya

”Ten Hag is having to compromise on his ideals this season (Getty Images)United just aren’t doing that on a collective level paymaya

All of this is why Ten Hag was so insistent on Frenkie De Jong in his first summer at Old Trafford paymaya

He saw his former Ajax midfielder as unique in his interpretation of that specific midfield role the coach wants paymaya

The only player Ten Hag saw as coming close, in terms of potential attributes, was Ryan Gravenberch paymaya

That’s the reason he went so big on De Jong, against all evidence paymaya

When he couldn’t get De Jong, Ten Hag realised he had to go in a different direction paymaya

So it’s been a bit of all or nothing paymaya

The same applies to the team as a whole paymaya

Either Ten Hag has exactly what he wants, or he just can’t commit to that approach paymaya

It’s why there isn’t too much concern about the visible lack of ideology now paymaya

There is confidence that will return when sufficient players return, especially Martinez paymaya

A fair question is whether crucial time has been lost in deepening the ideology paymaya

A fair point for Sunday, meanwhile, is that this actually might serve United against City paymaya

Unless Ten Hag has the team exactly as he wants, it is always going to be a mistake trying to go toe to toe with Guardiola in terms of getting feet on the ball paymaya

The Catalan’s City are always going to be so dominant you have to adapt around them paymaya

Otherwise, you risk an evisceration paymaya

The current situation plays into that paymaya

United have almost no choice but to plan without possession on Sunday paymaya

The very decision to appoint Ten Hag was supposed to be about something grander, though paymaya

They were supposed to be rising to City's level paymaya

United instead have to try and bring the champions down, by leaving them the ball paymaya

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Max Verstappen has told the boo brigade to show him some respect as the triple world champion prepares to enter the lion’s den at Sunday’s Mexican Grand Prix paymaya

Verstappen has beefed up his security for Red Bull team-mate Sergio Perez’s home race at the high-altitude Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez venue in Mexico City paymaya

Verstappen, who was jeered by Perez’s supporters a week ago in Austin, Texas, is prepared for another hostile reception this weekend – and he will be flanked by multiple security guards in the paddock paymaya

Organisers of the event – which is set to attract a crowd of nearly 400,000 over the three days – have appealed to fans for tolerance by launching the #Racepect initiative paymaya

Verstappen was jeered by Perez’s travelling fans in Miami earlier this year, while Lewis Hamilton was also booed here last year paymaya

“The hashtag doesn’t need to suit me,” said Verstappen paymaya

“It needs to suit the behaviour of the people and it is good to raise awareness because the behaviour of the crowd at some places can be paymaya better paymaya

“In Austin, it was against me paymaya

Supporting your favourite driver is fine, but you also have to respect the competition paymaya

“It is not only in Formula One, but is a general problem in a lot of paymaya sports that needs to be looked at and needs to be improved paymaya

”Perez’s fans remain unhappy Verstappen did not help the Mexican secure second place in last season’s championship after he ignored a team order at the penultimate round in Brazil paymaya

Perez has won only twice this season – his last victory in Azerbaijan on April 30 – with Verstappen racing to his third title in as many years paymaya

But the Dutchman added: “The rivalry with Sergio is made up paymaya

We get on really well paymaya

As a driver you try to be first or faster, but we have a lot of respect for each other and we appreciate each other’s performances paymaya

“For me, I feel very safe paymaya

I have had a great reception so far, and it is good to be back paymaya

”Red Bull team principal Christian Horner and motorsport advisor Dr Helmut Marko will also be accompanied by security guards paymaya

Last month, Marko, 80, referred to Perez’s background when discussing his driver’s inconsistent form paymaya

He said: “Let’s remember that he (Perez) is South American and so he is not as focused as Max Verstappen or Sebastian Vettel was paymaya

”Marko apologised for the remarks, but Hamilton believes Perez deserves greater support from within Red Bull paymaya

The seven-time world champion said: “As a driver, I understand the psychological and mental pressures weigh so heavily on you paymaya

It is difficult to put into words paymaya

“Sergio has carried himself really well, but I don’t think his team has been massively supportive – one spokesperson in particular has not been really great in helping him paymaya

“If I heard (Mercedes team principal) Toto (Wolff) talking negatively about me it would be tough paymaya

It is a difficult environment for him, but he has dealt with it to the best of his ability paymaya

”More aboutPA ReadyMax VerstappenSergio PerezMexico CityAustinMexicanTexasRed BullRed Bull RacingOracleMiamiLewis HamiltonChristian HornerAzerbaijanSebastian VettelToto1/1Max Verstappen urges fans to show him respect ahead of feisty Mexican Grand PrixMax Verstappen urges fans to show him respect ahead of feisty Mexican Grand PrixMax Verstappen is mobbed in the Mexico City paddock (Fernando Llano/AP)AP✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today paymaya

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